obviously, as steve pointed out that is no longer going to be possible. >> steve, it was striking during the republican primary to see newt gingrich, for example, who made a plea for humane treatment in here. and for consideration about families and family unity, kinds of issues that you would -- he framed it in a way that you could imagine appealing to conservatives. and he pretty much got booed by the republican primary debate audience when he tried that. but it seems that the mccains of the world were watching that and realized that if this election goes the other way they're obviously going to have to find their way back to where you know, john mccain used to be. >> there is no doubt between 2007 and 2012, just recently as november this was an issue that as a republican if you went out and talked about you have to solve this problem, that we have to deal in a compassionate way with the people that are already in the room. after a loss, this is a math issue, it is pretty simple to look at it. i think the people of the party have an interest of winning elections because if we don't win